Wednesday, September 24, 2008

What's wrong with government funding of the arts?

"I think when ordinary working people come home, turn on the TV and see a gala of a bunch of people at a rich gala ... all subsidized by the taxpayers -- claiming their subsidies aren't high enough when they know those subsidies have gone up -- I'm not sure that's something that resonates with ordinary people."



Of course, we're not really having a discussion about the arts, culture, and what role, if any, the government should have in it - it's all about soundbites and 'gotchas' and who is ponying up the biggest amount of $$ at the trough. So, I've decided to open things up a bit. As a follow-up to this post, here are some thoughts on the topic from U.S. economist Lawrence Reed that are equally applicable to Canada :

[T]he fact that the arts are wildly buffeted by political winds is actually a powerful case against government funding. I’ve always believed that art is too important to be dependent upon politicians, too critical an aspect of culture to be undermined by being politicized. Furthermore, expecting government to pay the bill for it is a cop-out, a serious erosion of personal responsibility and respect for private property.

But those “studies” that purport to show X return on Y amount of government investment in the arts are generally a laughingstock among economists. The numbers are often cooked and are almost never put alongside competing uses of public money for comparison. Moreover, a purely dollars-and-cents return — even if accurate — is a small part of the total picture.

The fact is, virtually every interest group with a claim on the treasury argues that spending for its projects produces some magical “multiplier” effect. Routing other people’s money through the government alchemy machine is supposed to somehow magnify national wealth and income, while leaving it in the pockets of those who earned it is somehow a drag. Assuming for a moment that such preposterous claims are correct, wouldn’t it then make sense from a purely material perspective to calculate the “average” multiplier and then route all income through the government? But isn’t that what they do in Cuba and North Korea? What happened to the multiplier in those places? It looks to me that somewhere along the way it became a divisor.

What if, for instance, “public investment” simply displaces a certain amount of private investment? (Arts subsidy advocates never raise this issue, but I know that I personally am far less likely to make a charitable contribution to something I know is on the dole than I am to something that I know rests upon the good hearts of willing givers). What if “public investment” brings with it some baggage like political manipulation that over time erodes the integrity of the recipient institutions? How does that fit into the equation? What if I, as a taxpayer who earned the dollars in the first place, could keep what the government would otherwise spend on the arts and invest it in my kid’s college education and end up getting twice the return on my money than the government would ever get on the arts?

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Sometimes, those of us who put faith in such things as the individual, private property, the marketplace, etc., are accused of being focused solely on dollars and cents. But I think that usually, it’s those on “the other side” who are more guilty of this. The arts funding issue is a case in point. Public funding advocates are focused on dollars — more of them, always more of them, and no matter how much public funding of the arts we have, it will never be enough for some. Those of us who wish to nurture the arts privately stress many other, and far more important values. I believe, for example, that money that comes voluntarily from the heart is much more meaningful than money that comes at gunpoint (which is ultimately what taxes are all about). You’ve won so much more when you convince people to do the right thing, or support the right causes, because they want to instead of because they have to. For that reason, I don’t believe in shotgun marriages either.

I can think of an endless list of desirable, enriching things in life, of which very few carry an automatic tag that says, “Must be provided by taxes and politicians.” Such things include good books, nice lawns, nutritious food, and smiling faces. A rich culture consists, as you know, of so many good things that have nothing to do with government, and thank God they don’t. We should seek to nurture those things privately and voluntarily because “private” and “voluntary” are key indicators that people are awake to them and believe in them. The surest way I know to sap the vitality of almost any worthwhile endeavor is to send a message that says, “You can slack off of that; the government will now do it.”

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Now, I know that art is just about everything to some people, especially those whose living derives from it. But as adults, we have to resist the temptation to think that what we are individually doing is somehow the greatest thing since the proverbial first loaf of sliced bread and that therefore it must receive more than what people give it willingly (that is, that it should also get some of their money unwillingly through taxes).

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When some people hear me say that [funding the arts is not a legitimate role of government], they think I must be denigrating the arts or somehow assigning them an unimportant role. Not at all. I think child-rearing is pretty darned important. But that’s a parental responsibility first and foremost. I think reading good books is pretty darned important, but that doesn’t mean it’s a government function to make us do it. Making sure there’s food in the grocery stores is important, but as we know, there’s always less of it in places where the government says it will grow it and stock the shelves for us (North Korea being one good example). As I said earlier, lots of things are critically important in life and sometimes all we do is endanger or trivialize them when we turn them over to the government.

The rest.

UPDATE: I think this about sums it up:

"Subsidy is for art, for culture. It is not to be given to what the people want. It is for what the people don't want but ought to have. If they want something, they'll pay for it themselves."

[source]

UPDATE: What the hell does this mean?

“We should be the landlords of our own industry, not the tenants,” said veteran actor and CBC presenter Gordon Pinsent. [source]

Note to Mr. P. - landlords are, by definition, owners. So if by your statement above you are signaling your intent to encourage your friends toward the risks and rewards of genuine entrepreneurship - by all means, be my guest - this taxpayer at least would thank you.

A few from the (668 so far) comments to the Globe article above:

Last time I checked though receiving gov't subsidies and dipping into slush funds to travel the globe to promote one's work doesn't make you a 'landlord'.

As any landlord will testify , you need enough for the down payment.

If you can't contribute the 10% needed , then stick with renting and cease the panhandling whine.


Mr. Pinsent a landlord has made a heavy investment into his/her property in order to be able to rent it out to tenants and in turn to hoepfully collect a return on his/her investment.
Similarily the arts and culuture community should invest in itself, or seek private investment, if it is to succeed in this country. Only then can it truly become self-sufficient. For example, if a production company is consistently producing flops how long would private investors continue to back a bad product. Here in Canada we seem to back prenneal losers. We must find a balance.

And on, and on, and on. Perhaps a few of Mr. Pinsent's supporters show up further down in the thread...

UPDATE: And a good discussion about that Harper quote I opened this post with (which does not imply I agreed with it - I don't) over at Raphael Alexander's.

20 comments:

Springer said...

My thoughts on all this.

I highly doubt Mr. Average Taxpayer is relating to any of this nonsense.

Linda said...

Springer - I see by your post that we've arrived at the same conclusion. Such a tempest in a teapot: arts and culture managed to make it thru the ages without gov't funding - what's so different now?

Powell lucas said...

This is just another example of the Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal clique of the self-appointed arbiters of what constitutes culture. Conservative funding has gone up overall, but it has been cut for the pet projects that were dear to the hearts of the elitist snobs. no longer will the taxpayer be expected to pay for trips to conferences that are merely hate-filled tirades against western democracy.
This is amply demonstrated when CTV trots out Shirley Douglas to plead the case for more money. She is the same idiot who was so prominent in supporting the old Black Panthers, the Symbionese Liberation Army, and the Revolutionary Action Movement in the U.S. These were the gangs of thugs who committed murders, preached radical Marxism, and promoted violent revolution.
The MSM are as desperate as all the left-wing nutters lining up against the Conservatives.

Anonymous said...

I have to admit this issue has me pretty steamed. I saw ACTRA's press conference this morning and just about threw the remote at the TV when some actor whined that the entertainment industry brought in so many millions of dollars and provides so many jobs, yadda yadda yadda.... Well if that's the case WHY THE HELL DO THEY NEED TAXPAYER HANDOUTS??? If that industry has such a positive contribution why aren't they self-supporting? Why should I be on the hook with my tax dollars for some display of crap someone wants to call "art"???

Linda said...

Powell - exactly why arts funding should not be politicized.

Anon - yes, it's welfare for cultural elitists and a conduit for politically correct cultural engineering. As for the $-generating argument, it is, as you put it, without merit.

Surecure said...

First off, Linda... go tell Beethoven, Bach, Wagner, Shakespeare and every other major artist of the last 3,000 years that arts and culture made it through the ages without gov't funding.

As an artist and a supporter of the Conservatives, I admit that what Harper is saying about arts funding resonating with average Canadians is factually correct. However, correlating the needs for arts funding with whether it resonates in the average citizen is like correlating whether teaching the Theory of Evolution resonates amongst hard-core Christians: ignorance of the facts does not constitute an intelligent understanding of a concept or its importance in the world.

It amazes me how so many Conservatives have no problem throwing money away on professional sports franchises or even subsidies for youth sports (they'd survive just as well, Linda) while saying that it is artists who are nothing but elitists. Have you ever seen a sports award gala? Have you ever seen the salaries of professional athletes?

Give me a break.

It is true that there are elitists in the arts community, but show me any other community -- sports, local or federal politics, big and small business, charity groups -- that do not have elitists who moan and complain about an unfair deal for a myriad of issues. Does that mean that those groups and the concept they represent are flawed or just the delivery?

Last year I contacted Bev Oda on this very issue and even warned that there will be a price to be paid if the government ticks off the arts community. Seeing how the numbers in Quebec are now shifting since the arts cuts became a focal point of the election only shows how true that fact is. Truth be told, you can't thumb your nose at the people whose job it is to make a big scene that looks good and expect to walk away with your message ringing out the loudest.

The other parties have found the Conservatives' present day Achilles heel and are tapping a nail into it. So, like it or not, if the Conservatives don't come up with a culture and arts plan -- and soon -- they are not going to win the seats they want in Quebec. And that means no majority. After all, the one thing Quebecers care more about than anything else is their culture. And to them, arts=culture. Politicians who thumb their nose at the arts in Quebec do so at their own risk.

It's their choice. Either the Conservative party can continue to be condescending to the arts community or they can work towards their sure fire majority. Right now they'd rather risk it. I guess they think that hovering around 37% in the polls (just like last election) gives them enough wiggle room to risk the opportunity for a sure fire majority government.

It's too bad so many Canadians have no care about culture. No wonder people would rather go to Rome, Paris or Cancun for vacation. They're much more interesting places to go culturally than Canada. Canada's pride in their own arts and culture coincides with why Canada is and has never been a place that people are dying to visit. But, I guess helping out the one group of people who do the most to give our country its cultural definition is not a worthwhile endeavor to some people.

Alberta Girl said...

Surecure - Given that the Tories have actually increased funding to the arts; and the latest smear campaign is another pseudo scandal manufacured by the Hate Harper gang and kept alive by their media friends; why don't you get out there and spread the word amongst your community that they are being lied to.

Linda said...

Surecure,

First off, Linda... go tell Beethoven, Bach, Wagner, Shakespeare and every other major artist of the last 3,000 years that arts and culture made it through the ages without gov't funding.

Well, let me know when the House of Commons starts hiring organists to serenade them and actors to put on plays for them - I might pay to see that rather than the current spectacle of Question Period...;o)

As an artist and a supporter of the Conservatives, I admit that what Harper is saying about arts funding resonating with average Canadians is factually correct. However, correlating the needs for arts funding with whether it resonates in the average citizen is like correlating whether teaching the Theory of Evolution resonates amongst hard-core Christians: ignorance of the facts does not constitute an intelligent understanding of a concept or its importance in the world.

You're channeling Sir Humphrey here... your condescending attitude toward both the intelligence of the average citizen and fundamentalist Christians will hardly endear you to either one.

It amazes me how so many Conservatives have no problem throwing money away on professional sports franchises or even subsidies for youth sports (they'd survive just as well, Linda) while saying that it is artists who are nothing but elitists. Have you ever seen a sports award gala? Have you ever seen the salaries of professional athletes?

Give me a break.


OK - I'll give you a break: I have no quibble with cutting off funding to sports franchises - it's just another form of corporate handout - though youth sports funding could be argued as in investment an the future health of a society's citizens.

It is true that there are elitists in the arts community, but show me any other community -- sports, local or federal politics, big and small business, charity groups -- that do not have elitists who moan and complain about an unfair deal for a myriad of issues. Does that mean that those groups and the concept they represent are flawed or just the delivery?

The issue is not elitism per se, but what constitutes a legitimate use of taxpayer dollars. In a relatively homogeneous culture it is easier for a country's citizens to come to some sort of agreement as to what constitutes its 'culture' but in today's Canada - the legacy of Trudeau's multiculti vision - I think you'd be hard-pressed to reach a consensus. I do not think culture benefits from being politicized - so I would argue for putting things back in the hands of the country's citizens - as I said in my previous post, "I don't think it's possible for governments to pick "gifted artists" any more than it is possible for them to pick winners and losers in business. Let the market, augmented by private charitable donations and foundations, decide." This way, the government can still support the cultural and artistic aspirations of its citizens, while remaining at arms' length from the process. And citizens get the culture they pay for. Are you willing to trust them with that?

It's their choice. Either the Conservative party can continue to be condescending to the arts community or they can work towards their sure fire majority. Right now they'd rather risk it. I guess they think that hovering around 37% in the polls (just like last election) gives them enough wiggle room to risk the opportunity for a sure fire majority government.

I concur with Alberta Girl - it's obvious that the current incarnation of the Conservative party is as committed as previous Liberal government to the policy of arts funding. The fact that they dared express an opinion over the content of what they were funding is the only difference I've observed. Maybe they just need to better articulate it. Whether the arts community will continue to prefer their own diva tantrums to the facts is hard to say - they're not (present company obviously excepted) generally predisposed to the Conservatives in the first place.

It's too bad so many Canadians have no care about culture. No wonder people would rather go to Rome, Paris or Cancun for vacation. They're much more interesting places to go culturally than Canada. Canada's pride in their own arts and culture coincides with why Canada is and has never been a place that people are dying to visit. But, I guess helping out the one group of people who do the most to give our country its cultural definition is not a worthwhile endeavor to some people.

Your Sir Humphrey's showing again... many Canadians do indeed care deeply about culture - so much so that they would like a voice in its expression. As for Rome, Paris or Cancun - other than the culture of our indigenous peoples - these cultures are much older than ours - this likely accounts for much of the fascination. I think if we unshackled our arts/culture from politics it would be much more likely to flourish, and would more accurately reflect its citizenry.

Surecure said...

alberta girlGiven that the Tories have actually increased funding to the arts; and the latest smear campaign is another pseudo scandal manufacured by the Hate Harper gang and kept alive by their media friends; why don't you get out there and spread the word amongst your community that they are being lied to.

I have! But what can little old me do to convince artists that the Conservatives give a darn when Harper's only comments about artists are so negative. Who do you think they're going to listen to?

Linda ...your condescending attitude toward both the intelligence of the average citizen and fundamentalist Christians will hardly endear you to either one.

I didn't say anything negative about fundamentalist Christians. I only pointed out that it is perception and belief that sways the argument... not facts. Just because most people are unaware of how much art and culture is intertwined in their everyday lives does not mean that art and culture itself has little or no value. It just means that people are uninformed.

...though youth sports funding could be argued as in investment an the future health of a society's citizens.

And youth arts program funding could be argued as an investment in the future mental health of a society's citizens. It's still funding though.

"I don't think it's possible for governments to pick "gifted artists" any more than it is possible for them to pick winners and losers in business. Let the market, augmented by private charitable donations and foundations, decide." This way, the government can still support the cultural and artistic aspirations of its citizens, while remaining at arms' length from the process. And citizens get the culture they pay for. Are you willing to trust them with that?

I absolutely would agree with this point... so long as we use the same logic in doling out corporate bailouts to the manufacturing sector. I'm very much a free-market supporter. But, if we're going to truly move to that way of thinking in society, let's go with the people who have gotten the most out of the government first.

The fact that they dared express an opinion over the content of what they were funding is the only difference I've observed. Maybe they just need to better articulate it.

Exactly. Or, better yet, they can actually put a policy forward. Considering that they have never articulated a single solitary policy towards the arts community ever, it might just help to show that they give a damn.

As for Rome, Paris or Cancun - other than the culture of our indigenous peoples - these cultures are much older than ours - this likely accounts for much of the fascination. I think if we unshackled our arts/culture from politics it would be much more likely to flourish, and would more accurately reflect its citizenry.

That's one way of looking at it.

Or... we could just use you as an example to the contrary.

Sir Humphrey? A character of the 1980's from the British government funded BBC. Love the irony of you using that as a reference in your arguments against government funded culture or how older cultural aspects are what makes the mark ;-)

Anonymous said...

So, by the same logic, i.e., "But as adults, we have to resist the temptation to think that what we are individually doing is somehow the greatest thing since the proverbial first loaf of sliced bread and that therefore it must receive more than what people give it willingly" I guess we as a society should cut off all tax exemptions to our churches?

Anonymous said...

Linda,
You could make the point that many, many people believe that any number of things that are deemed to be for the good of society and are taxpayer-supported should not be funded. What about schools? Some people could say "I don't have any children. I don't want to pay for their schooling." A short-sighted attitude to be sure, but possibly a fair comment. Many people don't want abortions paid for by the government. Others don't want very premature babies with significant disabilities kept alive. Some think children should be able to get enough exercise without fancy rinks and sports fields. I think it's important to look at what thrives without public funding and see if that is what we want to base our society on. Pornography has no problem making a profit. Do we want that to represent our culture? Gossip magazines sell in the millions. Is that our literature? Gore/slasher movies are blockbusters. Does that uplift us as a nation? I want the government that represents me to look beyond profit to what can inspire us; what can lead us to think and see the world in new and inspired ways. I want a Canada that will support the symphony because it is important to hear the music that much of today's music is based on. I want a government that supports museums because it is vital to know where we come from. I want a nation that supports art galleries because some art is beautiful, some is challenging and it helps to see the world through another eyes. None of those institutions would survive today without taxpayer funding.

Linda said...

Surecure,

I agree that perception and belief sway the arguments these days - which is why I enjoy opportunities like this for discussion. Yes, arts and culture have value - no argument from me there - as I said, I have a problem with the current way it is funded, which is why I sought to foster discussion with the posted article. I too disagree with corporate bailouts (see my posts on the current US crisis), and my example of youth sports funding was merely an example of what could be argued - I don't necessarily support that either.

Yes - point taken - the CPC should have a policy. Maybe discussions such as these (which they do read, along with the CBC in both Toronto and Montreal) will eventually lead to one. Kinda late in the game though for this election - and that's too bad.

Or... we could just use you as an example to the contrary.

Huh? (maybe it's the late hour, long day and groggy-from-headcold brain but I just can't parse that right now...)

Sir Humphrey? Touché. (But you sound like my teenage daughter who equates the '80's with the dark ages!) My view is very Catholic, however - truth is often found in the strangest places ;o)

Linda said...

Anon,

Red herring - different issue. Although tax exemptions are part of the arts/culture funding pot, this discussion has been more on the topic of direct government subsidies, directed by politics. Tax exemptions to churches/synaguogues/mosques/temples don't distinguish and aren't tools in the hands of politicians. But the discussion is not without merit - in another post, perhaps.

Linda said...

OK - previous comment was to Anon @9:54.

Anon @10:11

I would like to give your comment more than a sound-bite response, but it's late here for this gal who must be up at 6 tomorrow, so I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. G'nite folks, and thanks for the great discussion!

MK Piatkowski said...

First off, Pinsent is an actor who has shot off his mouth without understanding WTH is actually happening. Serious, I'm in the industry and have no idea what he was talking about. Thanks for playing into the rhetoric, Gordon.

Second of all, the increase that has been talked about comes from two sources - the raise in the annual funds to the Canada Council that was allocated in the final Liberal budget to be implemented the following year, and an increase in funds to Canadian Heritage for programs on the sports and community side, which is classified as culture. On the arts side, money has actually gone down. This most recent round of cuts went directly to the Olympic Torch relay, so it still shows as part of that increase.

The problem is that the government has obscured what the eliminated programs actually did. The cuts were to eliminate programs that provided industry support - training programs for cultural workers, research and development programs, seed money and venture capital programs. All supports to promote work internationally have been eliminated.

Most artists are small businesses. Small business don't have the resources to leverage expansion on their own when they're first expanding their markets. That's why there are government assistance programs. Bank loans are impossible to come by because banks won't fund artistic ventures because the way it is sold doesn't fit into their cost/benefit analysis. There are no venture capital funds for arts, unless you're writing a Broadway music or making a Disney film. So we look to the government to provide assistance, as do other industries.

Again, it's the specific programs that were eliminated that were the problem. We understand it's a tight economy, but we also understand that right now is a growth period for our industry internationally as there is a much higher demand for entertainment product. These cuts will stop the forward growth we've been experiencing. Remember, Canada is a small market. To develop alternative funding sources, we need to expand. And there was no discussion with the industry about how we were going to move forward before the programs were canceled.

But instead of actually talking about what these programs did, the government chose a few grants to people they didn't like and used it to paint the programs as wasteful and unnecessary and to rile up their base of supporters against supposed "elitist art". And now Mr. Harper drops a comment that implies that artists are rich off government funding, completely ignoring the convenient fact that the majority of artists live at or below the poverty line and the successful ones live a middle-class lifestyle, with only the rare, odd exception.

There's also a misconception out there that the government funds the projects 100% and that it's easy money. No proposal to any government program that looks for more than 40% funding gets accepted. And there's a whole competitive process to go through with no guarantee of seeing money at the end. I've blogged about the process if you're curious.

And btw, the C-10 fallout has made it much more difficult for films to find investors because there is no trust that the government will honour their commitment. You see, the dirty secret of arts funding is that private investors will not commit until they see the government has. This is how they secure their investment.

The point is, artists are average Canadians too. We work hard to create something of value for society. We're just asking for our industry to be treated like the important economic engine it is. If only the film actors would shut up and let the industry speak.

Anonymous said...

Amen to that, MK Piatowski.

Thank you for explaining the issues so clearly and eloquently.

Steve said...

Great post and discussion.

Here's another pertinent quote for you:

Art for art's sake is a philosophy of the well-fed.
Frank Lloyd Wright

Linda said...

Thanks Steve. MK Piatkowski's contribution, above, has raised some excellent points that should be discussed, so look for a new post (hopefully later today) that will lead off with his comments. Meanwhile, I'd recommend that readers interested in this debate head over to MK's site, One Big Umbrella, for some perspectives from the arts/culture industry. Let the discussion continue - because that's what it should be - a discussion. Which there's been precious little of in this election cycle - it seems as if too many topics are verboten.

Disgraced Media Baron said...

Thank you Linda, for encouraging a bona fide discussion on the subject of government funding for the arts. I work in the arts industry outside of the major centres, and it is a safe bet that I will not be voting Conservative this election. But I do agree that what has been largely missing in this election campaign is a serious discussion of many relevant issues, including the value (or non-value, if that is your take) on government funding for the arts (BTW, I can tell you first hand that any funding I have received has triggered spending in my locale on goods and services that has exceeded the amount of government investment.) I have been looking for reasoned comments that run counter to my own opinions, and some of your commentators have provided those.

I can't add much to the discussion at the moment as I'm cooking supper for the family as I'm writing this -- this elitist has to go throw a frozen pizza in the oven before they go off to Value Village to buy Halloween costumes ;-) -- but I'll throw in a few thoughts:

- There has been a substantive role for both public and private funding of the arts since at least the Greco-Roman era.

- Would not an unfettered free market have the similar potential to politicize art in the same fashion that some believe government funding might?

And yes, this Mr. Average Taxpayer totally relates to this nonsense.

P.S. Here is a link to an editorial by a Conservative traveler that I believe provides some good grist for this particular mill -- I am curious as to your thoughts on this:

Why Fund the Arts?

Disgraced Media Baron said...

Oh, and the direct arts and culture funding within the global Department of Heritage budget has fallen from $817 mil to $759 mil since the Conservatives took power.